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Grocer Rumor Raises Tension Dallas Morning News March 15, 2007 A rumor that Farmers Branch may be getting a grocery store that caters to the Hispanic market has touched off a controversy in a city where tensions already are high over the illegal immigration issue. A group of residents has been calling Minyard Food Stores Inc. to say they want a Minyard store at the southeast corner of Valley View and Josey lanes ? not a Carnival, which serves primarily Hispanic shoppers. Minyard operates the Carnival chain. A widely distributed e-mail by City Council candidate Tim Scott encourages residents to call the company to say they want a Minyard, not a Carnival. That has prompted others to distribute fliers or go door-to-door with the same message. Mr. Scott said that he doesn't recall who told him about the store's possible arrival but that he heard it from a couple of people. The movement to keep Carnival out has angered some residents, who say the effort is racially motivated and an attempt to keep out a store that would be favored by Hispanics. "I am so sick, my stomach is upset," said Elizabeth Villafranca, president of the Farmers Branch chapter of the League of United Latin American Citizens. "This is a person that is running for City Council, trying to control which businesses come in and out of the city based on his own prejudices. ... They are so prejudiced, but they don't want to face it." Mr. Scott said that at issue is the quality of store he wants for the Four Corners shopping center ? not race. "I don't think we need any sort of ultra-discount store in there at all. We're a town of ultra discounts as it is," Mr. Scott said. He said he and others want a store that is more upscale than Carnival and would have broader community appeal. "My perspective has nothing to do with any racial [thing] whatsoever," Mr. Scott said. "There's no anti-Hispanic grocery store movement. It's all about what's best for Farmers Branch and what is best for the Four Corners." Some see the issue as an extension of the city's debate over illegal immigrants. Residents will vote May 12 on whether to implement a proposed city ordinance that would ban apartments from renting to illegal immigrants. Mr. Scott criticized those who say it's a racial issue. "It's so interesting because it shouldn't be stirring up a lot of tensions," he said. "People who want to make this an issue have latched on to it." City officials said the city could use more grocery stores after a Super Saver store closed last year. But they said they have had no conversations with Minyard representatives or the broker handling the property about plans for the site. Another rumor is that Brookshire Brothers plans to open a grocery store at Four Corners. "Everybody's going nuts, and all we hear are rumors," said Michael Spicer, the city's community services director. "We don't know what's going on, but obviously some people have some ideas. How well grounded it is, we'll see." Paul Heilmann, senior vice president of marketing and strategy for Minyard, would not confirm or deny that his company is considering the site. He did say, however, that the company has identified Carnival as its "primary growth vehicle." Last August, the Coppell-based company opened a 56,000-square-foot flagship Carnival supermarket in Oak Cliff as a testing ground for the expanding chain. That store is billed as having the feel of an upscale market with discount prices. "We would invite anyone to come visit that store in Oak Cliff to get a sense of where we're going with the Carnival brand," Mr. Heilmann said. "It's a Latino-themed grocery store that is aimed at fulfilling the needs and wants of the customers in the neighborhoods we serve." Four Corners is in one of the city's biggest commercial districts. But most of its buildings were erected more than 30 years ago. And city officials say that luring retailers to the area is difficult because most prefer to go to outer-ring suburbs like Frisco, Coppell and Lewisville, where the number of people, and their incomes, are higher. The rumor is that Minyard may take over an empty building that was erected in 1959 and was occupied by Skaggs Alpha Beta for years. Albertson's moved into the building in August 1991. It became a Super Saver in December 2004 and closed late last summer. Shortly after the store closed, the city adopted an ordinance requiring that the City Council approve any new businesses that will occupy 20,000 feet or more in Four Corners. Former City Council member Junie Smith said that with almost 40 percent of the Farmers Branch population Hispanic, a Carnival store would fare well in the city. She said that opponents of a Carnival store moving in don't like the idea for racial reasons. "In my opinion, it is obviously derogatory of the Hispanic community," Ms. Smith said. "I am sure that if a Carnival was placed there, it would make a fortune while providing goods to an already-defined population group. But I know this type of establishment does not fall in the grand design for the redevelopment of the Four Corners area." City Council member Tim O'Hare, the driving force behind the city's illegal immigration proposals, said he is against a Carnival store at that location, but not because Carnival caters to Hispanics. "I think it is a reasonable thing to wish for to have a grocery store that appeals to higher-end consumers," he said.

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That it is perfectly reasonable & proper for ANY U.S. citizen to exercise their free speech by stating a preference about what kind of stores they wish to move into their neighborhoods. Why do people have to say it is "racially motivated" to want a nicer grocery in your community? Is this idiot LULAC leader say all Hispanics are poor? Now THAT would be a "racially motivated" statement! Just goes to show (as Henry Higgins said), "Silly people don't know their own silly business!"

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well i think that is stupid. coming from a catholic back ground i believe that when married a husband and wife become one. there cannot be more than two people. i cant believe any religion can agree to this. it is also against the women rights recently there was an article about some stupid, unauthorized protestant group called the church of the latter saints which actually practiced it

Jews were banned from entering BRITIAN for 300 years, until Oliver Cromwell allowed their return. In the Middle Ages, lending money with interest - usury - was considered a sin and forbidden to Christians. But medieval monarchs found it useful that Jews were allowed to engage in the practice. The outsiders financed royal consumption, adventures and wars - and made themselves rich in the process. By 1168, the value of the personal property of the Jews (around £60,000) was regarded as a quarter of the entire wealth of England. And when Aaron of Lincoln died not long after - all property obtained by usury passing to the king on the death of the usurer - Henry II inherited the then massive sum of £15,000. During Henry II's reign, Jews lived on good terms with their Christian neighbours. They helped fund a large number of the abbeys and monasteries and were allowed to take refuge there in times of commotion which came from time to time for religious or commercial reasons. They needed the refuge. Clerics and Popes routinely stirred up ill-feeling against the Jews as the "killers of Christ". Ill will was fed by the Crusades, in which the Jews were as much a target of the righteous sword-wielders as were the infidel Saracens(Muslims). One of the most popular - and heinous - myths was that known by Jews as "the blood libel", which appears to have originated in England in an accusation against one William of Norwich in 1144. It suggested that he and other Jews killed a young Christian boy to use his blood in the ritual preparation of unleavened bread for the Passover ritual - a claim which spread from England to France and Spain and throughout Europe in medieval times and which resurfaced in Nazi propaganda in the 20th century. In 1218, in what became the precursor of anti-Jewish laws all over the world, Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury, made Jews wear a badge - an oblong white patch of two finger-lengths by four - to identify them. Barons, to whom Jews lent money, encouraged the mob responses to such claims, in which Jewish homes were ransacked and records of their debts were destroyed. At the end of the 12th century, as part of an epidemic of religious fervour during preparations for Richard the Lionheart's Third Crusade against the Saracens, massacres of Jews were staged at Stamford fair, in Bury St Edmunds and, most notoriously, in York. In 1190 the city's Jews were given refuge in Clifford's Tower at York Castle only to be besieged by a mob demanding they convert to Christianity. Most of those inside committed suicide; those who surrendered were slaughtered. By 1290 the inevitable happened when Edward I - who had found an alternative source of finance in the Italian merchants known as the "pope's usurers" - banished the Jews from England. http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/ this_britain/article878482.ece

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Christians have told me that it wasn't "real" Christians who did such things. "Real" Christians would never commit such atrocities as the Holocaust, etc. None of those Europeans that participated with the Nazis, or allowed others to be tortured were "real" Christians. I'm not sure why they insist on calling nations "Christian" when they insist on distinguishing between the "real" and the "fake." Is there a "Christian" culture anywhere on earth that hasn't committed atrocities? How long will it take those "real" Christians to create peace? Why do they wait for "Christ's return?" If the messiah's purpose is to bring peace on earth, why don't they work toward that goal to "prove" he's been here? .

Mozambique may seem a world away, but the people are in a desperate situation - inflation at 4500%, store shelves empty, diseases, famine, corruption. President Mugabe seized farmlands from white farmers, only to have the lands fall to waste with no harvests to reap because no one knew how to manage the lands to produce food! He has given the lands - not to farmers - but to members of the ARMY! Politics! "In 2000, Mugabe instituted a policy of ''land reform'' which really was the forcible seizure of 4,000 commercial farms from white owners, the beating, raping and killing of many of them, the theft of their property, the beating and killing of blacks who worked for them and the wanton destruction of farm animals. " http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51614 The president seems inept, crisis-mode economics! What is your spin on this? Do you even care?? 071207 2:30 Here are some helpful links: http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/ jul12b_2007.html Le BigMac-oh wow! You are SOOOO right-the superficial nature of America's media...focusing on Nitwits like Paris Hilton (poor little rich girl), and bypassing the desperate lives of people outside the American borders. We are a very sad, selfish people... :( Noble Savage - EEEKKKK! I put the Wrong Country-what a snafu! I'm sorry folks - the country in question is: Zimbabwe NNNNOOOOTTTT Mozambique. My deepest apologies to ALL! Yipes!!!

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Kim, it's Zimbabwe that's the basket case, not Mozambique. Actually in recent years and despite setbacks like heavy seasonal flooding, Mozambique is one of Africa's bright spots. Zimbabwe, on the other hand, hasn't faced any real condemnation at all. Quite the contrary, Mugabe's still holding most of the cards - kicking out the BBC, quitting the Commonwealth, and having South Africa's Thabo Mbeki practically eating out of his hand. African leaders are scared of saying anything because Mugabe took from whites and gave to blacks and - heaven forbid! - they don't want to look like they're not toeing the standard post-colonial party line. Nothing will happen until African leaders get it down that despite whatever white people did during colonialism, land grabs like this are just plain bad.